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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject: Why not Hafner? Reply with quote

The only reason I think Hafner would lose in the MVP voting is East Coast bias.
Look at these stats of Ortiz and Hafner. Ortiz hits more HRs and has more RBIs but look at what Hafner has he has a better AVG OBP OPS SLG.
Ortiz has 42 more at bats.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/playercompare?cat=Batting&conference=MLB&year=season_2006&qualified=1&pids[5909]=1&pids[6980]=1&sort=25

Give me some reason please do not just say he’s Mr.Clutch because that is $hit.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to be the biggest moron on this site...even if you don't want to give it to Ortiz compare a guy like Manny Ramirez or Derek Jeter or even Jermaine Dye's stats with Hafner. Plus Cleveland is not making the playoffs. If the Yankees and White Sox make the playoffs expect Dye or Jeter to win it.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im just saying why not Hafner ? He has a shot like everyone else.

Look at his stats they stil are very good. Like I said East Coast bias I am suprised you said Dye. So to be an MVP your team needs to make it in the playoffs.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/playercompare?cat=Batting&conference=MLB&year=season_2006&qualified=1&pids[5909]=1&pids[6980]=1&pids[5610]=1&pids[5132]=1&pids[5406]=1&sort=23

I am not saying he is the best but i think he should be one of the top 3 if not top 2. I think Jeter will win it because of East Coast Bias and he has not won one yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well last year everyone said Arod's deciding factor of winning the MVP over Ortiz was the fact that he played the field and Ortiz DHed. Hafner is a DH so I assume that will happen again. The player who helps carry his team over the next month that out of about 5-6 candidates will get the MVP.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya I argee with that but i fell the same way that if a DH and a great feilder are both in the running the feilder should get it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Is there really such a thing as an east coast bias? Take a look at the 01-02 NBA season/MVP voting and then go ask Jason Kidd if being on the east coast helped him. Is Pujols losing any votes because of it? After all, not only is St. Louis further west, it's in the central time zone, while Cleveland is in the Eastern time zone, and much of the perceived bias is supposedly caused because of the later starting times of games as you go west?

-Your first post didn't just say "Why not Hafner?" It said the only reason Hafner wouldn't win is because he isn't on the east coast.

-Suppose this year's MVP race was between ARod and Papi; would ARod's subpar defense with his three errors games, mental snafus, etc. this year really make him more valuable than Ortiz?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hafner is not in the spotlight constantly like Oritz. They both are having great sesaons and I would have to give it to Ortiz right now. Now if he is out a long time with his heart condition then that opens the door for a whole lot of guys to steal votes from him.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that if the Indians were in contention there would be some talk of Hafner in the MVP race, based on his numbers. He wouldn't win, but I think more people would notice him.

In a year full of disappointing pitching, Hafner has been a consistent hitting machine.

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