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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: List of Fakes/Altered Cards Reply with quote

seeing so many discussions about fake/suspect cards here (and in order to make the hobby a better place for all Very Happy ), i'll try to list them in a single thread. hopefully, all the members here can provide additional input as we catch more and more of these bad boys. lol

1. Exquisite 07-08 Limited Logos Alonzo Mourning and Chris Paul
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description: Exquisite 07-08 Limited Logos of Chris Paul (42/50) and Alonzo Mourning (22/50) were bought by cardsrahabit on ebay, then put up for auction by dmarcus8 on ebay with altered patches (note: the original zo picture is no longer there, anybody has it?)

original CP3


fake CP3


original zo


fake zo



2. Ultimate 04-05 Premium Patch Shaquille O'Neal
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description: Ultimate 04-05 Premium Patch of Shaq with a Lakers logo patch that has very likely been altered. Sold on ebay by exquisite-baybuys to user with a private ID.




3. SP Authentic 97-98 Buyback & SPx 96 Michael Jordan Autograph
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description: SPx 96 Michael Jordan Autograph with a hologram serial number (BAD14807) that doesn't match the card. sold by cronuspoopoo on ebay to px23. The SP Authentic 97-98 Buyback does have a COA that seems legit but the auto itself doesn't look like regular MJ auto while the ink used is also different to other cards of the same set. Sold by cronuspoopoo on ebay to atomicfeather.



96 SPx Jordan auto fake



97-98 SP Authentic Buyback Jordan w/ irregular auto and ink



4. Ultimate 03-04 Buyback Sweet Shot Jersey Auto Kevin Garnett
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description: the real Ultimate 03-04 Buyback of KG Sweet Shot numbered 21 of 21 has a hologram serial number of AAA50095. the other number 21 seems to be an alteration after erasing the original hand numbering.

the original KG buyback


the COA of original KG buyback


the altered KG buyback


5. UD Pros & Prospects 2000 Signature Jersey Karl Malone
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description: the logoman patch is highly unlikely as cards from Pros & Prospects 2000 Signature Jerseys normally only have jersey swatches. In Malone's case it's either copper or black.


original malone


questionable malone



6. Ultimate 06-07 Autographed Patch Andre Iguodala
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description: the patch from the original Ultimate 06-07 Auto Patch Andre Iguodala numbered 9 of 15 had only one color (black). the altered version has a partial logoman on it.

original iggy

altered iggy



7. Exquisite 07-08 Rookie Auto Patch Kevin Durant
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description: the patch on the original 07-08 Exquisite Auto Patch Kevin Durant numbered 97 of 99 has been altered twice, first with a multicolor patch, then with a green patch


original durant


altered durant with multicolor patch


re-altered durant back with one color patch



8. Exquisite 07-08 Yao Ming Patch
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description: 07-08 Exquisite Patch Yao Ming numbered 09/10 only has one color patch, but this one was altered with multicolor patch


original yao


altered yao



9. SP Rookie Threads Michael Jordan and Lebron James
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description: there is a big possibility that the patches on these cards have been altered as other cards in the same set dont have partial logomen patches


most likely altered jordan


most likely altered lebron



10. 2004-05 E-XL Court Authentics Logoman Carmelo Anthony

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description: the real 2004-05 E-XL Court Authentics have sticker autographs as well as "1/1" stamped on the back, the fake doesn't have the "1/1" stamp, and usually comes with on-card autographs.


the fake anthony front with on-card auto


the fake anthony back without the 1/1 stamp


the real version (bosh) with 1/1 stamp


11. Upper Deck Century Legends 1999 Grant Hill

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description: the original Century Legends Century Collections Parallel Set doesn't have any 1/1, only #/100. Also, the original has the numbering on the right side instead of the left side and has orange foil instead of normal green font.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice thread Chuck !!!!! Ide yang sangat bagus !!!!

Hey why don't you make a blog about fake patches, completed with pictures and things. I'm ready to help you.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kecipir wrote:
Nice thread Chuck !!!!! Ide yang sangat bagus !!!!

Hey why don't you make a blog about fake patches, completed with pictures and things. I'm ready to help you.


thanks, bro! unfortunately, i'm not blog-savvy. maybe you can start it out instead and i'll be the one who helps you Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever happens, make sure that the pictures are saved somewhere because, a lot of times the links are connected to ebay links, which after a while get deleted. so save the picks so ppl can always see the before and after shots. great post tho.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cnp wrote:
whatever happens, make sure that the pictures are saved somewhere because, a lot of times the links are connected to ebay links, which after a while get deleted. so save the picks so ppl can always see the before and after shots. great post tho.


I agree. May i suggest starting a photobucket account so that the pictures can be saved and used for future reference.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got some for ya.....

I HIGHLY doubt this is real at all...

Fake Patch?

IDK....what do you guys think of this one?

Fake patch?

This one also....

Fake Patch?

Not suprisingly, though, I found WAY MORE fakes for Baseball and Football (and I mean a ton!!)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHAWNSSPORTSCARDS wrote:
I got some for ya.....

I HIGHLY doubt this is real at all...

Fake Patch?

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In those days, weren't lakers wearing Nike jerseys? where does a Reebok tage come from then? a later issued swingman probably
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.fakepatchreport.com

Also, instead of just saying "this card is fake," provide some evidence, maybe?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatalite wrote:
http://www.fakepatchreport.com

Also, instead of just saying "this card is fake," provide some evidence, maybe?


I believe that fakepatchreport is no longer alive. I know i submitted several cards where i had both images and nothing ever happened with them.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill sticky this as fakepatchreport.com has 123 active and 144 pending, probably means its no longer going.

Itd be nice if someone could actually dedicate themselves here to keeping this thread maintained. If Chuck wants to thatd be great, or if anyone else wants to make a new thread I will sticky it!

Also as before mentioned, we'd need a photobucket to catalogue and archive all the images. Ebay links and image hot links can be deleted or altered, so its best to be safe!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK hadn't quite planned on releasing this just yet but I have started setting up a site with all the confirmed fake/altered patches. Only confirmed ones though no including the speculative ones without proof. I have a pile of unproven ones but will not add till they are:

http://nba-fakepatches.weebly.com/

Please contact me via PM or the site if you have any more.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billyhoyle wrote:
OK hadn't quite planned on releasing this just yet but I have started setting up a site with all the confirmed fake/altered patches. Only confirmed ones though no including the speculative ones without proof. I have a pile of unproven ones but will not add till they are:

http://nba-fakepatches.weebly.com/

Please contact me via PM or the site if you have any more.

Nice.

I would suggest, though, giving a rundown on what the Fleer Auctions were. I'm checking out http://nba-fakepatches.weebly.com/fleer-auctions.html and can't help but wonder about how many people who might think every Fleer card out there could be fake. The "empty proof" cards pictured aren't fake, but you're making it sound like they are. Also, are you sure the Webber logoman and dual Webber/Brand logomen are fake?

Once again: Anyone can claim a card is altered or is a fake. But we need proof! Showing images side-by-side of before and after cards is a great start.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The webber/brand - the other logoman from that set are stamped and not hand numbered.

If anyone has a better description of the fleer auctions than I have put please let me know.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billyhoyle wrote:
The webber/brand - the other logoman from that set are stamped and not hand numbered.

If anyone has a better description of the fleer auctions than I have put please let me know.

Good enough explanation.

And yeah, I didn't notice the scan next to the dual was the back of the dual. My apologies. Definitely fake, haha.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billyhoyle wrote:
OK hadn't quite planned on releasing this just yet but I have started setting up a site with all the confirmed fake/altered patches. Only confirmed ones though no including the speculative ones without proof. I have a pile of unproven ones but will not add till they are:

http://nba-fakepatches.weebly.com/

Please contact me via PM or the site if you have any more.


Wow nicely done !!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

afrobandit - is there any proof on these?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHAWNSSPORTSCARDS wrote:
I got some for ya.....

I HIGHLY doubt this is real at all...

Fake Patch?

IDK....what do you guys think of this one?

Fake patch?

This one also....

Fake Patch?

Not suprisingly, though, I found WAY MORE fakes for Baseball and Football (and I mean a ton!!)


thanks for the info, shawn. i'm also leaning toward fake for the cards that you mentioned. unfortunately, i don't think i have sufficient information to make a call. the kobe, for example, says that it's a jersey instead of a patch. and the wade looks too good to be true. but until i have comparisons from several other cards of the same set, i'll hold my call. if you or any other member can verify those, it'll be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul06901 wrote:
Ill sticky this as fakepatchreport.com has 123 active and 144 pending, probably means its no longer going.

Itd be nice if someone could actually dedicate themselves here to keeping this thread maintained. If Chuck wants to thatd be great, or if anyone else wants to make a new thread I will sticky it!

Also as before mentioned, we'd need a photobucket to catalogue and archive all the images. Ebay links and image hot links can be deleted or altered, so its best to be safe!


thanks, paul. i have updated the link w/ pics and short description. i also put the pics in my photobucket. unfortunately, some of the pics have already gone before i had a chance to save them.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, I was wondering what ya'll think of this card. I collect Kareem Rush so I'm familiar with all of his stuff (what little stuff that is). I have two of these and just picked up a third but this one just does not look right to me compared to my others. Let me know what you think, thanks

Altered?
http://cgi.ebay.com/03-04-KAREEM-RUSH-SUPER-PATCH-3-COLOR-UD-SP-GU-d-100_W0QQitemZ120329628203QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sports_Cards?hash=item120329628203&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1207|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking of going after a Nate Exquisite, if these are real I might try one out but I couldnt remember if these were brought up here before?

Real or fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/06-EXQUISITE-NATE-ROBINSON-NYK-LOGO-PATCH-225-RC-5-CLR_W0QQitemZ290273962186QQihZ019QQcategoryZ149917QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Celtics there has been a ton of speculation on those cards, I can't recall but believe they are faked. The seller was a member here (mark.chamberlin2) and was found to be shilling, had multiple accounts here, as well as what you'll see in these threads about the nate cards:

http://www.hobbykings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52622&highlight=

http://www.hobbykings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57319&highlight=

Hope that helps, if it was me I wouldn't bid on anything from that seller or those nate cards.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Celtics there has been a ton of speculation on those cards, I can't recall but believe they are faked. The seller was a member here (mark.chamberlin2) and was found to be shilling, had multiple accounts here, as well as what you'll see in these threads about the nate cards:

http://www.hobbykings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52622&highlight=

http://www.hobbykings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57319&highlight=

Hope that helps, if it was me I wouldn't bid on anything from that seller or those nate cards.


Ohh thanks a lot for the help, I think I will pass on those two because it looks like theyre fake plus who knows if they will be shilled?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Celtics wrote:
I was thinking of going after a Nate Exquisite, if these are real I might try one out but I couldnt remember if these were brought up here before?

Real or fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/06-EXQUISITE-NATE-ROBINSON-NYK-LOGO-PATCH-225-RC-5-CLR_W0QQitemZ290273962186QQihZ019QQcategoryZ149917QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks!


the patches in nate's cards look slightly different from that of balkman's (i assume those balkmans are real, kecipir? Wink).




notice how the silver outline on nate's patches look pale compared to patches on the balkmans. also, the quality of the patches look questionable. (but there's also a possibility that it's the scanner's fault)
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